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Environmental emergencies are full of persistent myths that can worsen injury at the bedside and in the field. Snakebite, jellyfish envenomation, heat stroke, drowning, and hypothermic arrest all have a few high-yield truths that matter more than folk remedies or outdated terminology.
Snakebite and marine envenomation
- Harmful snakebite first aid: Venom extractors, wound cutting, and tourniquets do not remove venom and can worsen local tissue injury through ischemia, infection, or delayed definitive care.
- Early envenomation clues: Progressive warmth, redness, joint involvement, and expanding tissue injury are the bedside signs that matter most when deciding who may need antivenom evaluation.
- Antivenom workup basics: Serial exams plus coagulation studies and a DIC panel are the key early tests in suspected snake envenomation, and toxicology input is worth getting early in the episode.
- Jellyfish rinse myth: Urine and other freshwater rinses can trigger additional nematocyst discharge, so the safer first move is visible tentacle removal followed by saltwater irrigation.
- Species-specific sting care: Vinegar is not a universal jellyfish treatment; it may help some species but worsens pain with blue bottle jellyfish, a distinction we get into in the chapter.
- Box jellyfish danger: Box jellyfish in northern Australia can cause sudden life-threatening cardiac arrhythmias, which is why local species knowledge and poison center guidance matter.
Heat illness, drowning, and hypothermia
- Sweating does not reassure: Heat stroke is not ruled out by diaphoresis; altered mental status in a hot environment is the red flag that should drive aggressive cooling.
- Cooling method hierarchy: Evaporative cooling works, but ice-water immersion in a body bag cools roughly twice as fast, and we walk through when that speed matters on the show.
- Drowning electrolyte myth: Saltwater versus freshwater drowning does not usually produce major electrolyte differences in humans because aspirated volumes are typically too small.
- Preferred drowning terminology: Use drowning or submersion injury rather than near drowning, dry drowning, or secondary drowning; standardized language improves communication and outcome reporting.
- Hypothermic arrest endpoint: Severe accidental hypothermia can be neuroprotective, and resuscitation generally continues until successful rewarming above 32 C unless injuries are clearly nonsurvivable.
- Termination red flags: A potassium above 12 mEq/L, impossible chest compressions, or avalanche burial with packed airway and prolonged asystole are major clues that continued efforts may be futile.
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References:
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- Devlin JJ, Knoop KJ. Marine Trauma and Envenomation. In: Tintinalli JE, Ma O, Yealy DM, et al, eds. Tintinalli's Emergency Medicine: A Comprehensive Study Guide, 9e. McGraw Hill; 2020. Accessed May 30, 2023.
Faculty
- Geoffrey Comp, DO, FACEP
Dr. Comp is an Associate Program Director for the Creighton University / Valleywise Health Emergency Medicine Residency Program in Phoenix. A clinician-educator at heart, Geoff spends his time mentoring the next generation of Emergency Medicine residents and advocating for better ways to teach and learn medicine. His professional world revolves around wilderness medicine, clinician wellness, and finding innovative ways to bridge the gap between theory and the bedside. When he isn’t in the ED or the classroom, you’ll likely find him combining his love for medicine with his passion for the outdoors, always looking for a new trail to explore or a new way to collaborate with fellow clinicians.
- Kimberly Bambach, MD