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Hippo ERcast December 2023

  • Dec 2023
  • 8 Chapters
  • 2 hr 37 min

Welcome to the December 2023 Edition of ERcast! This month, DeLaney discusses medicine as a vocation vs a profession, we give a rapid fire lesson on the latest ACEP Clinical Policy Updates, we talk 2023 tox trends, Rob Orman helps us script our least favorite conversations, we ditch the LP when dealing with SAH, and much more! Let’s dive in! 

Faculty

  • Andy Little, DO

    Dr. Andy Little is an emergency medicine physician and educator. He earned his medical degree from the Ohio University Heritage College of Osteopathic Medicine and completed his emergency medicine residency at OhioHealth Doctors Hospital Emergency Medicine Residency, where he served as Chief Resident. He has received multiple national awards, including recognition from the American Osteopathic Association, American College of Osteopathic Emergency Physicians, and Emergency Medicine Residents' Association.

  • Drew Kalnow, DO

    Dr. Drew Kalnow is an emergency medicine physician and educator based in Columbus, Ohio. He completed his emergency medicine training at OhioHealth Doctors Hospital Emergency Medicine Residency. Dr. Kalnow is passionate about advancing emergency medicine through high-quality education, with a particular focus on simulation, learning theory, and innovative teaching.

  • Matthew DeLaney, MD, FACEP, FAAEM

    Dr. Matthew DeLaney is an emergency medicine physician and educator based in Birmingham, Alabama. A native of Mobile, he earned his medical degree from the University of South Alabama and completed his emergency medicine residency at Maine Medical Center.Dr. DeLaney has experience in both community and academic emergency medicine and is known for his commitment to teaching and medical education. He lives in Birmingham with his wife, Erin, who is also a physician, and their two daughters.

  • Cameron Berg, MD

    Based in Minneapolis, MN, Dr. Berg focuses on simplifying complex patient care processes, such as chest pain, syncope, and heart failure treatment. Since 2020, he has also been navigating his own recovery from a TBI after a bicycle accident. When he isn't in the clinic, Cameron is usually busy keeping his three young children alive and happy.

  • Jess Rivera Pescatore, PharmD

    Dr. Rivera earned her PharmD from the University of Florida. She completed a pharmacy practice residency at Lakeland Regional Health in Lakeland, Florida in 2011 and went on to complete a Clinical Toxicology/Emergency Medicine Fellowship with the Florida Poison Information Center at UF Health Jacksonville in Jacksonville, Florida. For the past 6 years, Dr. Rivera has practiced as a Clinical Pharmacist in Emergency Medicine at UAB Hospital in Birmingham, Alabama where she is an Associate Professor with the Department of Emergency Medicine. She is board-certified as a Diplomate of the American Board of Applied Toxicology and serves her institution’s Office for Medical Toxicology and the Alabama Poison Information Center as a Clinical Toxicologist

  • Rob Orman, MD

    Dr. Rob Orman is an emergency physician, educator, and executive coach specializing in physician performance and professional fulfillment. After more than 20 years in community emergency medicine, he now works with clinicians across specialties to address burnout, inefficiency, and career challenges. He earned his medical degree from Emory University School of Medicine and completed his residency at Denver Health Medical Center, where he served as chief resident. Dr. Orman is the founder of the Stimulus podcast and Orman Physician Coaching. He previously served as chief editor of ERcast and hosted Essentials of Emergency Medicine for nearly a decade.

  • Blake Briggs, MD
  • Kimberly Bambach, MD

Chapters

Is Medicine a Vocation or a Profession?

Medicine is both skilled labor and moral work, and the language clinicians use for that identity shapes boundaries, burnout, and duty. In emergency medicine, calling the job a vocation versus a profession can subtly change expectations around sacrifice, autonomy, and self-worth. Medicine as Vocation or Profession Identity Framing in Practice: Vocation implies a calling with moral obligation, while profession emphasizes expertise, standards, and negotiated boundaries; that distinction matters when emergency physicians define what the job can fairly demand. Burnout and Self-Sacrifice: The vocation frame can quietly normalize overwork and personal sacrifice, especially in emergency medicine where service culture is strong. We get into why that wording can become operational in the episode. Professional Boundaries: A profession carries duties to patients without erasing duties to self, family, and colleagues, offering a cleaner foundation for sustainable emergency practice than limitless altruism. Language Shapes Culture: The words used in departments and training programs influence how clinicians interpret fatigue, guilt, and commitment, often long before formal wellness policies enter the conversation. Moral Meaning of the Work: Seeing medicine as more than a job preserves purpose and seriousness, but the chapter explores where meaning helps and where identity language starts to extract too much from clinicians.

Rapid Fire - ACEP Clinical Updates

Large-vessel occlusion stroke, appendicitis imaging, minor head trauma CT use, and acute heart failure diagnosis all saw meaningful ACEP policy updates. The practical themes are better bedside risk stratification, less unnecessary imaging, and more confident use of ultrasound and modern stroke imaging when timing and presentation fit. Acute ischemic stroke updates Prehospital LVO screens: LAMS and RACE can be used to flag patients with higher likelihood of large-vessel occlusion, giving EMS and ED teams a practical way to prioritize stroke pathways. Late-window perfusion imaging: CT perfusion or MR diffusion-perfusion imaging is recommended when ischemic stroke is suspected in the 6-to-24-hour last-known-well window, a distinction we walk through in the episode. Thrombolytic agent choice: Both tenecteplase and alteplase remain acceptable thrombolytic options for suspected acute ischemic stroke, with TNK highlighted as a single-bolus alternative. Acute vertigo stroke risk: ABCD2, ocular motor examination, and HINTS can help risk stratify possible posterior circulation stroke, but HINTS is only as good as the examiner behind it. Suspected appendicitis imaging Pediatric risk tools: PAS and pARC can help risk stratify children with possible appendicitis, but ACEP cautions against using a score alone to rule out advanced imaging. Ultrasound-first strategy: Right lower quadrant ultrasound is a reasonable first-line test in both children and adults, and a clearly visualized dilated appendix is highly actionable. Equivocal pediatric ultrasound: A nondiagnostic ultrasound in a child with persistent concern should not reassure you; MRI, CT, surgical input, or observation remain on the table. Adult noncontrast CT: Noncontrast CT has only a minimal drop in sensitivity for adult appendicitis, particularly when BMI is above 20, which matters when contrast is a problem. CT contrast choices: If CT is obtained, IV contrast is preferred when feasible, while oral and rectal contrast do not meaningfully improve accuracy. We get into the operational implications in the chapter. Mild traumatic brain injury Preferred CT decision rule: The Canadian CT Head Rule is ACEP’s preferred tool for adults with minor head injury because it improves CT use better than lower-specificity alternatives. Lower-specificity alternatives: NEXUS Head CT and the New Orleans Criteria can be used, but their lower specificity means more scans without the same efficiency as CCHR. Anticoagulation caveat: Standard head CT decision instruments do not apply to patients taking anticoagulants or antiplatelet agents, an exclusion that changes bedside decision-making fast. Negative CT disposition: Patients with a normal initial head CT and baseline neurologic exam generally do not need routine repeat imaging, admission, or observation if no other red flags exist. Discharge risk counseling: Good discharge instructions should cover delayed hemorrhage symptoms and post-concussive syndrome, especially in higher-risk patients such as those with intoxication or assault-related injury.

Lit Matters 1: Subcutaneous Insulin: Can it be Used for the Treatment of DKA?

Mild to moderate diabetic ketoacidosis does not always require an ICU insulin drip. Selected adults can be managed with a structured subcutaneous insulin pathway, with shorter ED length of stay and similar safety in this SQuID protocol study. Subcutaneous Insulin for Mild DKA Selected patient population: The signal applies to mild to moderate DKA, not severe disease; altered mental status, pregnancy, serious infection, ESRD, CHF, and other active comorbidities were key reasons patients were kept out of the pathway. Operational outcome signal: A structured SQ insulin pathway shortened emergency department length of stay to 8.9 hours versus 11.9 hours with traditional IV insulin management, a meaningful systems result when boarding is the real bottleneck. Safety comparison: Hypoglycemic events were not significantly different between SQ and IV strategies, supporting SQ insulin as a feasible alternative when the patient is otherwise appropriate for non-ICU care. Monitoring feasibility: The protocol used every-2-hour glucose checks and performed comparably to traditional hourly monitoring, a practical detail with major implications for observation-unit workflow. We get into the operational tradeoffs in the episode. Automated pathway trigger: One notable design feature was an electronic trigger: glucose over 300 mg/dL prompted point-of-care ketones, and elevated ketones then launched a broader DKA workup and pathway activation. Implementation reality: Adopting an SQ DKA pathway is a hospital-wide process involving ED clinicians, pharmacy, and inpatient teams; IV and SQ insulin are not mutually exclusive, and earlier basal SQ insulin may fit alongside infusions in selected cases.

2023 Tox Trends: Tianeptine and Xylazine

Tianeptine and xylazine are emerging drugs of abuse that can look like opioid toxicity but behave differently at the bedside. Tianeptine is a mu-opioid receptor agonist sold in the US as an unregulated supplement, while xylazine is a veterinary alpha-2 agonist that often adulterates fentanyl and can cause prolonged CNS depression. Tianeptine toxicity and withdrawal Gas station opioid mimic: Tianeptine was developed as an antidepressant but in the US is sold as a supplement with strong mu-opioid receptor activity, making overdose and dependence easy to miss. Mixed overdose phenotype: Acute intoxication often resembles opioid overdose yet can include marked agitation alongside CNS depression, a combination that should prompt a broader tox screen. Naloxone responsive toxicity: Naloxone is a reasonable first-line antidote for tianeptine intoxication, but airway monitoring matters because reversal can be incomplete or precipitate abrupt withdrawal. Severe withdrawal syndrome: Tianeptine withdrawal can be dramatic enough to require chemical sedation, with benzodiazepines and other ICU-level adjuncts often entering the conversation. We get into the practical sedation approach in the episode. Patient education opportunity: Some patients take tianeptine for mood, weight loss, or self-detox and may not realize it is non-FDA-approved, so bedside counseling is part of harm reduction. Xylazine intoxication and complications Veterinary sedative adulterant: Xylazine is an FDA-approved veterinary sedative and a potent alpha-2 agonist that increasingly appears alone or mixed with fentanyl to prolong effect. Naloxone-resistant sedation: Profound CNS depression, lethargy, and miosis are typical, but unlike pure opioid overdose the clinical response to naloxone may be limited or absent. Airway over antidote: Supportive care is the priority because symptoms can persist up to 12 hours, and many patients need oxygen, ventilation support, or admission for observation. Hemodynamic red flags: Bradycardia and hypotension are less common than sedation but are important clues when the toxidrome does not fit routine fentanyl exposure. We cover the bedside recognition nuances in the chapter. Necrotic skin ulcers: Chronic xylazine exposure is linked to necrotic ulcerations, especially on the hands and feet, a finding that can point to the diagnosis when ED testing is unavailable.

Scripting Your Least Favorite Conversation

Refusing a low-value or harmful request is usually an emotion problem, not a logic problem. For clinicians facing demands for antibiotics for a viral URI or other unnecessary care, a repeatable script preserves boundaries, reduces exhaustion, and keeps the conversation compassionate. Scripts for Saying No Well Emotional mismatch problem: Patient pushback after a refusal is usually driven by disappointment, fear, or frustration, so a fact-heavy explanation alone often fails even when the medicine is clearly on your side. Energy-saving repeatable script: A prepared script helps you deliver the same boundary cleanly when you are tired or irritated, reducing decision fatigue during high-frequency conversations like antibiotic requests. Authentic boundary language: The script works best when it sounds like you and reflects what you are actually protecting, whether that is avoiding harm, practicing to your values, or keeping care evidence-based. Yes No Yes framework: Start with what you are saying yes to, place the no on the request rather than the person, then offer a real alternative plan. We walk through the wording nuances in the episode. The statement reframing: Replacing "you" statements with "the" statements lowers judgment and preserves rapport, shifting the conversation from personal correction to shared interpretation of the illness. Compassionate pushback response: Expect the second ask after your first refusal; steady empathy, social proof, and a firm recommendation usually work better than escalating the science lecture. Antibiotic Requests for Viral URI Common low-value ask: Requests for a Z-pack after a week of cough, rhinorrhea, or brief sinus symptoms are classic viral URI conversations, where patient expectation often matters more than microbiology. Harms that rarely persuade: Complications like diarrhea and even C. difficile are real, but listing adverse effects often does not move the encounter because the patient is still focused on getting to yes. Validation before refusal: Acknowledging that many people feel better after antibiotics creates social proof and respect before you explain that similar viral illnesses improve on the same timeline without them. Offer a viable alternative: A refusal lands better when paired with a concrete symptomatic plan and reassurance that the illness does not look bacterial or dangerous right now. Special knowledge approach: Borrowed from negotiation, this framework asks what the patient knows or fears that you do not yet understand, such as an upcoming trip or worry about contagion. We get into the setup in the chapter. Thats exactly right moment: You know you have uncovered the real agenda when the patient says "that's exactly right," a cue that they feel heard and are ready to discuss the actual concern rather than antibiotics alone.

Lit Matters 2: The Benefits and Harms of Screening for Depression and Suicidality

Depression screening has measurable primary-care benefit, but the evidence for suicide-risk screening remains thin and uncertain. In emergency medicine, a positive screen for severe depression or suicidality should trigger a fuller bedside assessment rather than confidence in the tool itself. Screening for Depression and Suicide Risk Primary care signal: Systematic-review evidence supports depression screening in primary care, with lower depression prevalence at 6 months and better symptom improvement in screened patients. Suicide screening evidence gap: Suicide-risk screening has not shown clear outcome benefit, and the evidence base is strikingly sparse, with only one included study assessing suicidality outcomes. PHQ test performance: PHQ-9 showed roughly 85% sensitivity and 85% specificity, while PHQ-2 was more sensitive but far less specific, a tradeoff that matters when ED resources hinge on a positive screen. Suicidality tool limits: Available suicide-screen instruments reported sensitivity above 80%, but the underlying data were tiny and not reproducible, so bedside confidence should stay modest. We get into why that matters in the episode. Screening harms uncertainty: Direct evidence of harm from screening was minimal, but downstream harms may be real, including resource use and possible insurance or financial consequences after documented suicidality. What Positive Screens Mean in the ED Screen positive next step: A positive depression or suicidality screen is not a disposition tool; it is a prompt to slow down, assess mental state directly, and clarify actual risk. Treatment benefit distinction: Psychotherapy and antidepressants improved depression outcomes, but no comparable signal showed reduction in suicidality, an important distinction when counseling patients and teams. SSRI harm signal: Psychotherapy did not show increased harm, while second-generation SSRIs carried a reported 53% relative increase in suicide-attempt risk in one study. ED evidence blind spot: Only one study addressed the emergency department population, so importing primary-care screening recommendations into the ED rests on very limited direct evidence. Equity limitations: The literature was notably thin in lower-income and minority populations, despite higher burden and different access patterns that may change how screening performs in practice. We cover the practical implications on the show.

Clinical Controversies: SAH

Subarachnoid hemorrhage is the headache diagnosis emergency clinicians most fear missing, but the real controversy is what to do after a negative noncontrast head CT. Ottawa SAH Rule use, the 6-hour CT rule, and the LP-versus-CTA decision all hinge on strict inclusion criteria and a realistic view of downstream harms. Subarachnoid Hemorrhage Workup Nuances Thunderclap headache signal: Sudden severe headache reaching maximal intensity within 1 minute is the strongest historical clue, with about 97% sensitivity, while nausea, vomiting, or unilateral pain are far less discriminating. Ottawa SAH Rule limits: The Ottawa SAH Rule is 100% sensitive only when every inclusion and exclusion is respected; its specificity is poor at roughly 8% to 15%, so many patients still trigger imaging. We walk through the practical fit in the episode. Six-hour CT rule: A modern noncontrast head CT read by an experienced radiologist can reduce the miss rate for aneurysmal SAH to under 1% when obtained within 6 hours in a neurologically intact patient. Critical CT caveats: The early-CT strategy depends on more than timing alone: normal mental status, no focal deficits, a modern scanner, typical presentation, and no significant anemia all matter. LP interpretation pitfalls: Lumbar puncture is highly sensitive for subarachnoid blood, but traumatic taps muddy the picture and tube-to-tube RBC clearing has not proven reliable for separating artifact from true SAH. CTA versus LP tradeoff: CTA is highly accurate for aneurysms larger than 3 mm and avoids a painful procedure, but incidental aneurysms, radiation, and cost shift the conversation toward shared decision-making after a negative CT.

Lit Matters 3: Does the Size of the Blood Pressure Cuff Matter?

Blood pressure cuff size changes automated BP readings, and the error can be large when a regular cuff is used on a very large arm. In the emergency department, that matters most at the extremes of hypotension or severe hypertension, where misclassification can trigger the wrong next step. Blood Pressure Cuff Size Accuracy Automated cuff sizing effect: Using a regular automated BP cuff regardless of arm size shifted readings away from the appropriately sized cuff, confirming that cuff mismatch affects the numbers clinicians act on. Largest-arm overestimation risk: A too-small cuff on very large arms pushed systolic pressure up by nearly 20 mmHg, enough to create false severe hypertension and unnecessary downstream testing. One-size mismatch impact: Being off by one cuff size can skew BP, but in typical ED patients the difference is usually less clinically important than the acute pain, stress, or illness driving the vitals. Extremes still deserve precision: For hypotension and markedly elevated blood pressure, cuff choice deserves extra attention because small measurement errors can change resuscitation or antihypertensive decisions. We get into the practical bedside takeaway in the episode. Guideline-based arm measurement: Mid-arm circumference remains the right way to choose a cuff, especially when an extra-large cuff may be needed and a regular cuff would systematically overread the pressure.